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Show your axe

New postby James on Wed 23 Aug 2006 17:51

Friends, it is unfair we show here so many niche knives, and so little axes comparatively...

This is the axe thread, maker, amateur or axe lover, show your axe, industrial handmade or custom, you like it, or you made it, please [you] show us! ;-)
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New postby British Red on Wed 23 Aug 2006 18:32

Now you are playing with the "you" tag again James! I'll need to take pictures...just need to decide if its all at once or one at a time!

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New postby cegga on Wed 23 Aug 2006 19:02

I have them here but I can send more much more :wink:
http://www.antracit.se/cpg/index.php?cat=11564
you can get page in in your language hit the flag in bottom
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New postby Taky on Wed 23 Aug 2006 20:34

Thanks James!

Sadly I have nothign special at the moment to show (I'm ussing a regrind 10$ head). Still, I'd like to know what you guys are using as I feel the "need" or something better.

Bring them slowly Red, so we have the time to appreciate each one :D
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New postby James on Wed 23 Aug 2006 21:36

good good ! just throw the picts anc comments.

Cegga, yes, they are beautiful !!!!
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New postby British Red on Wed 23 Aug 2006 22:38

Okay, I'm only really bunging these up to "get the ball rolling" - I'd really like to see more about ceggas and Jimbo's creations. Still, James wanted some "axe porn" so here is a pretty axe - its my Gransfors Bruks working axe. 35" handle - 6" face and 3" bits. I do really like Gransfors axes and this one is a beauty - finely balanced and a joy to both cut and split with

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I'll put up one more that I tidied up for my friend later

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New postby British Red on Wed 23 Aug 2006 23:03

Well Heres the one I did for Tim - he couldn't really run to a GB or Wetterlings at the time but needed an axe for our trips - and a man should ahve an axe. Now a while back on BCUK, someone spotted very cheap "Swedish Army axes" being sold (£10 new) by a surplus retailer. They had proper swedish forged heads too (Banko ones generally).

This turned up

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Cleaning off all the gunk got us to this

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Lots and lots of work with hand tools got us this

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Not a patch on what Jimbo does, but we got a useable axe out of it and I learned a lot (like just how hard steel is after its been tempered :wow: )

That was really brought home to me when Fergus completely reshaped his axe head and ended up with a thing of beauty. I won't steal his pictures, but if anyone wants to be inspired (or staggered) by what is possible on tempered steel with a file - have a look here - I'm sure Jimbo will remember mentoring us through our first stumbling steps ant playing with re-dressing axes :lmao:

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http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=13346
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New postby kolekojot on Wed 23 Aug 2006 23:16

Thats nice axe Red.. I should take picture of Bahco I reground, and few others tommorow.
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New postby British Red on Thu 24 Aug 2006 00:08

Looking forward to it Bhogdan.

And come on cegga - stick up some pictures and tell us all about one of yours - something nice in damasteel! But we want details man - length, weight, steel etc.

You really need to give us some prices too!

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New postby cegga on Thu 24 Aug 2006 21:29

Hey!!
Here come some axe porno :wink:
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New postby kolekojot on Thu 24 Aug 2006 22:33

I am speachless now..
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New postby British Red on Thu 24 Aug 2006 22:53

:bow: :bow: :bow:

Now cegga, you just can't leave it like that. Questions!

1. Is that your forge?

2. Will you do commissions?

3. How does someone order from you?

That will do for starters oh.

4. Do you have a catalogue?

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New postby kolekojot on Fri 25 Aug 2006 00:05

Considering number of people on this forum able to grind axe, I have another question.. What about only Heat treated heads.. That way we could have affordable forum axe, in do it yourself wersion..
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New postby Jimbo on Fri 25 Aug 2006 07:37

And I thought that I had lots of axes around! Wow!
We sure need more details on those.
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New postby DavidEnoch on Fri 25 Aug 2006 21:51

I will have to borrow the digital camera from work again. I tried to take some hatchet pictures a few weeks ago and found that it is hard to show the details that make an axe work. I came away with a lot of respect for the camera work of Jimbo in his axe series.

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New postby Taky on Sat 26 Aug 2006 03:08

Wowwwwwww I'm still speechless!

I'm with bogdan, two heads, a double and a simple bit, on propelly treated good quality carbon steel to be finished at home... and why not a "OMF" stamp :D
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New postby sencaus on Sat 26 Aug 2006 07:11

Did I miss something? I can't find a thread about the OMF axe(s)... Who will design and make them?

Thanks!
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New postby Taky on Sat 26 Aug 2006 08:52

No proper thread, just some mentions here and there triying to get enought motion to make it happen. It started with Red lurking at some damascus axe porn.
No design or maker YET... :D
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New postby kolekojot on Sat 26 Aug 2006 10:07

Taky, lets imagine, a double bit head of about 2 pounds, lets say doubled SFA bit size, but little thicker so that it will be better splitter. Anyone can mount it like he likes, but my choice will be probably 24" handle..

I am dreaming.. :D :D
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New postby British Red on Sat 26 Aug 2006 10:46

Hmmm loving the idea, but still think we would be better supplying a handle (as, for example, you can't get double bit handles over here). We could do it like an option though....so much for the head, so much for the handle...........

Senad....I mentioned Goran Enocksson as a good maker and we found out that cegga is a maker too (don't know if he would want to take this on though). Would you be interested cegga?

The only other one I know is Lee Reeves...incoming porn!

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I'm sure there must be lots of other makers - I just don't know who they are!

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New postby Stew on Sat 26 Aug 2006 12:13

Lee Reeves stuff is nice!

I'm still using a Fiskars hatchet as my main chopper because it's surprisingly good, despite being ugly!

Having a billhook and a Golok as well means I can generally cover all situations I need a chopper for.

However, if there was a forum axe I would be very tempted! :D
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New postby sencaus on Sat 26 Aug 2006 15:55

Stew,

my opinion is that most of us have covered our needs for lightweight chopping equipment with mini-axes or hachets. You are satisfied with your Fiskars hatchet, also I can not say nothing bad about my Øyo Viking or one of the custom axes in the similar size. Besides that, I also have a two little things from BRK&T.

Without regard to the fact that I possess a few of heavier Gränfors axes (Hunters, little and big Forests), when talking about the possible OMF-axe, I'll be more for a single bit one, about 0,9-1,2 kg in weight. That is the same weight-class as these Gränfors axes mentioned before, but if it will be something of OMF-axe, I'll be more than willing to order one or two.

I've tried a several models and sizes of double bit axes and found out that only the big ones are the serious tools. The single bit ones are more practical and versatile in everydays use. I can not imagine myself in the forest without the possibility to use an axe head as a hammer. Besides that, it's very important if one want to split the trunk with one or more wooden- or steel wedges. I use this technique almost always when I want to provide the fire-wood for my camping place.

This is just my proposal and something to think about when or if we get a chance to realize this project.

Kind regards from the North!
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New postby cegga on Sat 26 Aug 2006 19:23

Hey!
Say what axe you want and I can see if I can do It :hat:
I see no problem to send axes so you can grind it yourself
Maybe I can hardened and temper and you just grind it.
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New postby sencaus on Sat 26 Aug 2006 20:58

Hei Cegga!

That's a really good news and your generous offer is greatly appreciated.

Now, we should see how many members are interested in this project and what kind or size of axe(s) should we order.

Thanks a lot again!
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New postby British Red on Sat 26 Aug 2006 21:02

So very cool - could you give us some idea of prices please? Say for:

A hatchet in plain steel
A cruiser (double bit hatchet) in plain steel
A hatchet in damasteel
A cruiser in damasteel

Plus anything else you think might interest people. I think we would be advised to keep to smaller axes for shipping prices

What does anyone else think?

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New postby British Red on Sat 26 Aug 2006 21:03

Holy **** I just saw the attachment cegga!

If you could do us something like that head......I for one would definitely be up for it!

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New postby Taky on Sat 26 Aug 2006 21:08

Hard to ignore Senad arguments! a single bit makes lot of sense, this is why at the first place I was considering both heads. If we are going to grind ourselves the axes is a great time to get finally to the bottom of the question. If both heads are on the same range after a couple of years of usage by this forum members we would start to get some really interesting answers about double bits versus single bits.

About head size, like Senad I think most of us have already hatchets and most our lightweight chopping needs covered. The forests and generally speaking our bodies are not up to something too heavy, so maybe a head on 2 pound range could do nicely.

Cegga first at all thanks a lot for your interest, not everyone would cover himself in axes and run around this forum: bloody dangerous!

There a few questions I'd like to ask. First is about what sort of steels are you using and what sort of heat treatment is apply to the heads? Most of us like to know what sort of performance we can expect from our tools.
How many axe heads we would need to be able to place an order?
And last of all: is there option on a forum design head shape and materials, or would we need to stick to your current offering.

If this as to become a reality we could then start to talk design and others.

For myself if there is going to be an OMF axe I can already to commit to order one or two. On my mind I'd like to have both designs single and double bit, both designed with the same materials and enough parallel to make a comparison.
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New postby kolekojot on Sat 26 Aug 2006 21:26

I agree that we could settle on two heads, double and single bit, and that will provide a lott of answers to questions..

Senad was completly right, a head in 1-1.2 kg range will be probably most usefull one.

I will also find a way to afford one or two heads. Getting them in raw condition will probably bring price down. I will also like edges from harder steel welded into softer steel head..

And Red, if it is double bit, I will get handle for you, don't worry.
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New postby cegga on Sat 26 Aug 2006 21:29

Hey!
What performance do you whant?
The steel I use are same as GB use
and I harden it to 50 - 58 HCR .
Price I don´t no I have to no what modell first
and how many.. just forge or how much work I have to do
Can do a stamp whith OMF and put them in number
typ A1,A2 ,A3.
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New postby British Red on Sat 26 Aug 2006 21:36

Can I order A1 now? Just to hold the number :yup: :nana: :lmao:

I like the idea of a single and double and I'd be up for one of each. a 1kg head based around a 24" overall length would be perfect (is that A1 & B1 I want :D ). I really like the length of the Scandanavian Forest axe as opposed to the more conventional 19" length - those few extra inches make a heck of a difference and add very little weight

Are we interested in plain or damasteel? I'd really like one at least in that damasteel if it isn't too expensive

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